So there are effectively two programs that have been elevated by two
Incredibly wealthy individuals OSU and Oregon w Phil night. And now those two land grant institutions are well known and respected based on their front door and massive campus investments backed by huge football windfall. Super fan. Meh. It’s one reason why cfb has become way over the top in terms of investments as other schools then try to emulate.
Meanwhile on paper, 10-15 years ago CSU was as good if not better than both these schools.
You couldn’t pay me enough $$ to go to school or live in Oklahoma.