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CSU needs to play better, but the metrics are weird

I don't know how they did selection in the old days, but the reliance on metrics has almost gotten out of hand.

I don't know what CSU has done, other than not win more blowouts, to be so much lower ranked than pretty much all the other top teams we've played, most of which we've beaten, but I just don't get it. If CSU wins to close this out it won't matter and the rankings will rise, but they are all seriously flawed and some teams benefit and others fall back.

Look at St. Mary's. A team CSU crushed. They are ranked 19th in KenPom and 22nd in NET. They are 5-4 in Q1-2, 2-4 Q1. St. Mary's does have five road wins. Their SOS is 71.

Now CSU is 53rd KenPom and 41 in NET. CSU is 5-2 Q1-2, and 2-2 in Q1. SOS is 126. Does have the Q3 loss.

So CSU is 20 to 30 points behind St. Mary's how? Based on the SOS and road record, I can see them being higher, but for the most part those are not encredibly distinguishable resumes and CSU owns an overwhelming head-to-head.

Loyola Chicago is 32 in the NET and 33 in KenPom. Their SOS is 121. They are 3-4 on Q1-2 with one Q1 win. CSU is better, even if slightly, but 10-20 points worse?

The most headscratching to me is I saw Washington State. They are 34 KenPom, 37 NET. They are 13-7 and have a SOS of 122. They are 2-4 in Q1-2 games with no Q1 wins. They also have two Q3 losses and one Q4 loss. What in the flying hell is that?

So what has CSU done to be knocked so bad in metrics? None of it adds up to these other teams.

Again, CSU can just take care of business and it not matter, but I don't understand these discrepencies at all. The blowout losses suck, but if that is why they are 30 points behind comparable teams, even one with a head-to-head blowout win against, these metrics are very flawed.

Posted: 02/05/2022 at 2:59PM


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Current Thread:
CSU needs to play better, but the metrics are weird -- Roscablo 02/05/2022 2:59PM
  It's hocus pocus thats why -- RamFan99 02/05/2022 3:56PM
  People grew to hate the RPI for some reason -- Roscablo 02/05/2022 4:07PM
  I liked the RPI -- RamFan99 02/06/2022 02:14AM
  I noticed Wash St a couple weeks ago -- Givemefletch 02/05/2022 3:38PM
  Washington State is completely off the walls -- Roscablo 02/05/2022 4:42PM
  The MW won't be lucky to get two teams -- Roscablo 02/05/2022 3:16PM
  Correct. MWC easily has 3 in as of right now. -- Givemefletch 02/05/2022 3:37PM
  Here's a metric probably not included -- Hopsblues 02/05/2022 3:19PM
  The metric seem to change every year. ** -- Ramenity 02/05/2022 4:41PM
  These were viewed as the biggest snubs last year... -- CubsClapp 02/05/2022 4:02PM
  Looking at that CSU is OK in NET numbers -- Roscablo 02/05/2022 4:11PM

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